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PostSubject: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-22, 21:57

monsters...21


1x-Cyber dragon
3x-darkworld-gold
2x-darkworld-balau
2x-darkworld-buron
3x-darkworld-khaki
2x-beastking barbaros
2x-Ancient gear golem
2x-fussiller-the dualmode beast
2x-giant orc
1x-darkness destroyer
1x-morphing jar

magic...17


1x-gear town
3x-darkrealm dealings
3x-tribute to the doomed
1x-card destruction
3x-gate to the dark world
3x-book of moon
1x-heavy storm
1x-MST
1x-swords of revealing light


trap....11

3x-scrap-iron scarecrow
1x-call of the haunted
2x-skill drain
3x-sakuretsu armor
3x-phoenix wing windblast



50 cards///
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 07:59

cut the cards down to 40

drop fulser for barbaros

drop the scrap iron scarcrows

drop the sakuretsu armor

drop one phoenix wing wind blast

drop one book of moon

drop the giant orcs wow

drop 3 tribute to the doomed

discarding for a cost is different from discarding for a cards effect

pwwb is for a cost,

add torrential tribute

add mirror force

add 2 bottomless trap holes

that should help out a bit
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 09:56

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discarding for a cost is different from discarding for a cards effect

I've been playing the game for a few months now and it still astounds me that people mess up costs and effects. Especially when it comes to psychic decks.
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 20:02

..tribute to the doomed is a very nice combo for khaki...


you get to destroy 2 cards..^^
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 20:15

It is a cost not an effect. omg what is it Hannibal and I all but spelled it out for you here. when a card says discard than do this, the discard is a cost to activate the effect but something like dark world lightning says do this then discard a card making the discard an effect. other cards that have discard as an effect would be dragged down in to the grave and card destruction.

Dark world monsters says discarded by a card effect not a card cost therefore you will not get their effects when you discard them for a cost. that better?
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 22:12

..hmmmm...so....you're saying that...

phoenix wing windblast , feather of the phoenix, tribute to the doomed are cost-effect?


but the card is "still" discarded by effect right?
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 22:24

no it is discarded for the cost of the card.

if you are still having trouble go look up darkworld on wikia and read about it there.
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-23, 22:27

ok maybe i can clear this out for you guys.

cost is: something you need to do before the effect of the spell, trap or monster card is applied/resolves.

Example: Lightning vortex; causes you to discard 1 card from your hand before its effect resolves therefore if you discard a DW monster for it the effect of DW monster isnt applied since it was a cost.

Card effect: Dark World Dealings; the card lets you draw and your opponent 1 card from the deck ( thats the effect number 1 ) then after you both have drawn your cards you both need to discard a random card from hand ( effect 2 of the card or rather side effect )

therefore if you discard a DW as the effect of DW dealings you get the effect of the discarded DW monster.

Hope this cleared some issues out.
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PostSubject: Re: ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear   ..darkworld-skilldrain-ancientgear Empty2009-11-24, 03:18

On an interesting side note, Allure of Darkness doesn't have a cost. Unfortunately all the dark world creatures are just that, Dark.

If you have imperial Iron wall set up then you will be unable to remove a monster from play and will therfeore have to discard your entire hand as an effect.


This is great if you are going for game but not very good elsewhere.
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