New DC System

(Tester = Tester and higher)
- Tester beating Tester - 50 DC
- Tester beating Obelisk - 25 DC
- Tester beating Ra - 10 DC
- Tester beating Slifer - 5 DC
(This 5 is a exception from the original system, because there should be SOME reward)

- Obelisk beating Tester - 75 DC
- Obelisk Beating Obelisk - 50 DC
- Obelisk Beating Ra - 25 DC
- Obelisk Beating Slifer - 10 DC
(This 10 is a exception from the original system, because there should be SOME reward)

- Ra beating Tester - 100 DC
- Ra Beating Obelisk - 75 DC
- Ra Beating Ra - 50 DC
- Ra Beating Slifer - 25 DC

- Slifer beating Tester - 125 DC
- Slifer Beating Obelisk - 100 DC
- Slifer Beating Ra - 75 DC
- Slifer Beating Slifer - 50 DC


All right, I've been working on a new DC system for AGES, and I couldn't find a way to fix it to my liking, while keeping a pattern going. So, I ended up with this.

The main flaw with the current system I saw was Slifers VS Ra's(probably since those are the most active duelists). With the old system, when a Ra went against a Slifer, and got 2-1, the Slifer would get DOUBLE the DC that the Ra would get just for losing. This, I believe, really isn't fair. That was the main problem I was trying to fix while making the system, but keeping a pattern, I couldn't seem to make the Ra get more for winning twice. So, I ended up with what is displayed above, where the Slifer only receives a little more than the Ra does.

Now, the reason everything is lowered is mainly because of that, but a tiny part of it is because LDA's growing. When we used to be smaller and less active, it was pretty easy(Oh, what am I saying. It was EXTREMELY easy) to get DC, like a Beta server in a game. Now that we have grown and have become a larger academy, I think we should make it a little bit harder.

So... let me know what you guys think.

EDIT: Also, I was thinking of reinstating the get confirmation rule; it just makes things easier. And personally, I think you should only get DC if you win, but apparently Ace doesn't agree with me. >:O I will have a new DC system suggestion, if you guys like the ideas under "EDIT"

~Aster Phoenix

I think that lowering the dc prices this much isnt a good thing. I never found it entirely easy to get dc and would take me a bit of time to get DC for anything I wanted in a shop. Unless shop prices are lowered, which I doubt. Fixing the slifer-ra issue should happen, but an across the board deflation is a bit too much in my opinion. The only people I see with alot of dc are the ones who have been here for a long time and dont exactly spend it too much.

EDIT: The confirmation rule? When an opponent confirms the duels? I thought that was already in place, though I did notice some allowances. I think that you really should have your opponent confirm or at least show proof to get dc.

Hm. Yeah, the confirmation rule was never in. It was actually in a long time ago, but Ace removed it.

And, how about the idea of only winner receiving the DC. That would make making a DC system easier. :O Plus, it'd make it somewhat higher.

~Aster Phoenix

Yes, in fact I never actually knew your opponents got dc till a few weeks ago when for the first time I got a 2-1 match. So, removing that would not be much of an impact. If Ace does not agree, then possible just reducing the prices slifer gets for losing.

Why is he so adamant about losers getting the current DC prices?

Well, it makes sense to get DC for every duel you win.

Not just if you won the match.

Even if you win 2-1 the other player still beat you once. One less time than you beat them, right?

I preferred the old system lol ^^,
if I beat a tester or a moderator I win 75 dc??

Why not have a DC bonus if you win the match?

Well, just how difficult do you think it should be to accumulate DC?

Aster Phoenix wrote:

I've also suggested giving the "not-winner" half-DC for losing, but again, that was rejected by Ace.

~Aster Phoenix

You didn't sugested that, I did, don't steal other people's ideas.


Anyway, I like this new sytem, it's more balanced, maybe you should increase the rewards a litle, but it's ok, the other system allowed slifers to get DC too easly.

I'm not sure that tester and higher should get the same DC, some mods are not as good as the testers or the obelisks.

You did?! No way! I thought I did. Oh well, I guess you did then, if you say so. My memory's not as good. Too much work at school.

And yeah, which was why I never supported putting Mods as a higher rank. Perhaps giving mods a Luminous Rank or something? Idk, lol. But yeah, I see where you're coming from, and I totally agree.

~Aster Phoenix

As I see it the biggest problem is the crazy amount of DC slifers are getting. As I said before, the overall DC deflation is a bit too much. Out of the three things I can think of spending DC on, one had a recent prices hike (Restests) and the other is expensive to begin with(changing title). Unless these prices are brought down along with the DC (Does not even have to be proportional to the DC deflation, just brought to reasonable levels) I feel they will cost entirely too much.

As for the heart of the problem:

Here is the current DC system (For reference):

- Ra beating Tester - 175 DC
- Ra Beating Obelisk - 125 DC
- Ra Beating Ra - 75 DC
- Ra Beating Slifer - 25 DC

- Slifer beating Tester - 200 DC
- Slifer Beating Obelisk - 150 DC
- Slifer Beating Ra - 100 DC
- Slifer Beating Slifer - 50 DC

What I suggest (will bold the change):

- Ra beating Tester - 175 DC
- Ra Beating Obelisk - 125 DC
- Ra Beating Ra - 75 DC
- Ra Beating Slifer - 25 DC

- Slifer beating Tester - 200 DC
- Slifer Beating Obelisk - 150 DC
- Slifer Beating Ra - 75 DC
- Slifer Beating Slifer - 50 DC

Its a pretty simple solution. It takes your idea and just fits it into the current system. It might sort of mess up the overall pattern that was going on (adding 50 more DC to every tier) but this still works out well I would think. The biggest (and most valid) argument I see against this change is that slifer should get more for beating a Ra than a Ra would for beating a Ra.

There are no real easy solutions with the given circumstances, so other suggestions might bring a more viable solution.

EDIT:

Aster Phoenix wrote:

I've also suggested giving the "not-winner" half-DC for losing, but again, that was rejected by Ace.

That was a very good idea. Too bad it was rejected. I feel that you may need to discuss with Ace what it is he exactly wants for the DC system and why he rejects some of your ideas. Otherwise, I feel like we are just throwing darts at a bulls-eye while blindfolded.

Egh,for testers and up it's impossible to achieve DC.

Why don't raise it a little? o.o
Come on,tester beating Tester only 50 DC? And obelisk only 25? That's an impossible way to gain DC.

It's almost impossible to achieve 100 DC,you must duel....5 Slifers in matches,equal to 50 Duels. How to do that?

EDIT:

Any by the way,how'd Aster gain 2000 DC?

What if the DC gain wasn't relative to your rank?

What if it was always a 15 DC gain for beating a Slifer, 30 DC for beating a RA and 45 DC for beating an Obelisk?

Hell, you could just pay out for the match, not individual duels. The loser would get 10 DC for supporting the activity of LDA.

sorry.. but i am a slifer.. and i always thought the DC system was a little overboard.. and what Aster/aj siad about half DC.. that would work.. or what Hannibal said made sense to...
hm...

Either way.. this has to go by Ace to approve.. he is the FOunder or w/e... that or have more Admins vote for it than Ace.. then it passes..

P.S.: dont listen to the fat man.. he is probably Drunk right now

You sound like drunk,really

Anyways,it's impossible that more admins will vote.There are only 2 active. We need moar!

And yeah,Hannibal's idea could be good.

Since nobody has replied, I will take action.

Rules for the Luminous Duel Arena have been updated. Everyone please read the stickies/announcements in the Luminous Duel Arena.

DC System will remain unchanged for now, although it is affected in a way.
Thanks

~Aster Phoenix